Sheila Blakley, Witness for the State
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MR. PANOSH: Sheila Blakley, please.
SHEILA BLAKLEY, being first duly sworn, testified as follows during
DIRECT EXAMINATION by MR. PANOSH:
Q Would you state your name, please.
A Sheila Blakley.
Q And Ms. Blakley, you're the mother of Patricia Kimble?
A Yes, I am.
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Q And just prior to her death, did there come a time when you had
conversations with her?
A I spoke to her that Saturday at her yard sale. She called me at
home and told me that she was having one.
MR. LLOYD: Well, objection, Your Honor, grounds previously raised.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MR. HATFIELD: Your Honor, before we proceed, I just can't hear her.
I'm sorry.
THE COURT: All right.
Ms. Blakley, you're going to have to speak a little bit louder,
please, ma'am. You have a soft voice.
A She called me Saturday morning and told -- reminded me
that they were having a yard sale at Cinnamon Ridge and wanted me to
come. And she told me that Edna, Ted's mama, had some clothes that I
might be interested in. And so, I did go over there. And I was up
there maybe an hour with her, and then I left and went back home.
Q And what do you know about the items that were being sold at
the yard sale? Were those Patricia's?
A As I remember, some of them were hers and some of them belonged
to Cinnamon Ridge.
Q Did you have a conversation with her shortly before her death
in reference to insurance?
A It was probably the first part of September.
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MR.
LLOYD: Object again, Your Honor.
THE
COURT: Overruled.
A
It was sometime the first part of September. I know it was before
her birthday. We -- she called me and was talking, and she said,
"Mom, I'm worried about something." I says, "What's that?" She
says, "Ted's trying to take more insurance out on me." And I says,
"What kind?" She says, "Life." I says, "Well, how much?" And I don't
remember her saying, but she said that's what she was worried about.
Q
And when was her birthday?
A
September the 14th.
Q
And did you talk to her again about that on or about her birthday?
A
Yes, sir. I took her out for dinner that Wednesday before her
birthday was on Thursday. We went out to Piccadilly out at Carolina
Circle Mall, and we eat, and I asked her about it, and she said for
me not to worry about it, that -‑
MR.
LLOYD: Objection.
THE
COURT: Overruled.
A
-- that they had talked about it and they had agreed on
something, but she didn't go into what. And I didn't ask no more
about it.
Q Did there come a time after her death when you became aware of
the fact that you were the beneficiary on an
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insurance policy?
A Yes.
Q Would you explain that to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
please.
A Ted called me at home and he informed me that I was the
beneficiary of my daughter's insurance --
MR. LLOYD: Well, object to this
A -- at work.
MR. LLOYD: -- as well, Your Honor. THE COURT: Overruled.
A And I did not know that until he called and told me.
Q How much was that policy, ma'am?
A $25,000.
Q And did it have a double indemnity on it?
A Yes, sir.
Q So it turned into $50,000?
A I got $25,000, you know, sometime later. Then I found out it
was double indemnity, and they did send me the rest sometime later.
Q And who was that insurance through?
A Life of Georgia.
Q And why did Patricia have that insurance?
A The $25,000?
Q The one that you received, that you were the beneficiary of.
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A That was at work.
Q okay.
A That was the one at work.
Q So the money that you were beneficiary of was an insurance
policy through Cinnamon Ridge; is that correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q Now, you previously heard -- Well, let me ask you this.
Did you also have a personal policy on which you were the
beneficiary with Patricia?
A Me and my son and my daughter had life insurance with Life of
Georgia, and the agent had come to my house, that's when we -- me
and my husband was married, and he asked me if I didn't want to make
ours bigger, and I said, "Yes." So I took mine and my son's and took
them and made a bigger policy out of them. And also at the time, he
mentioned Pat, and I said, "Well, you'll have to go talk to her and
see if she wants to do that." And so, he did go talk to her, and she
did increase it to $25,000. I do know that.
Q And were you the beneficiary on that policy?
A I don't know. I didn't know.
Q But originally, that policy was purchased by you for Patricia
A Right. Not
Q -- when she was a child?
A Not the $25,000. Because she cashed -- turned like
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$2,500 in. Part of it was paid up. And so, she gave them that and
turned it into a $25,000 policy. But I didn't know who she made
beneficiary.
Q Did you have further conversations with Theodore Kimble about
the policy which came through Cinnamon Ridge that you were the
beneficiary of?
A That day that he called me, he told me about it. And I told him
I wasn't aware of it.
MR. LLOYD: Objection. THE COURT: Overruled.
A And
THE COURT: Again, the Court's previously ruled on
this.
A -- I was not interested in no money right now, that I didn't
care about it. And he said to me, "I need it. Would you call Hershel
and see if he would send it to you, to give to me?" And I said,
"Ted, I'm not interested in it. I've not even got over Pat right
now." And I wasn't interested in no money. And so, he went on and
gave me Hershel's telephone number. And I don't really remember
whether I wrote it down or not, but I did not call Hershel.
And Hershel called me that night at home around 7:30 or 8:00 o'clock
and told me then that I was beneficiary of Pat's money at work. And
I told him then that Ted had already told me that evening that I
was, and that I wasn't
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interested
in it.
Q
And I take it this was very shortly after her death?
A
Yes. Probably maybe a week, no more than a week.
Q
Did Ted have further conversations with you, asking you for that
insurance money?
A
He asked me several different times about it. And when I talked to
Hershel that night, I told him that I didn't want it, that I didn't
care anything about it. And I told him what Ted had said. He said,
"You don't want to give it to him. If she wanted him to have it, she
would have made him beneficiary." I said, "I don't care if he has
it. I don't want it." And he says, "Well, I don't want you to feel
that way, because Pat wouldn't want you to say that." I says, "Well,
I don't care what you do with it. You can leave it where it is, all
I care." And he says, "That's all I want to hear."
And
so, that's where it stayed for a while. And Ted called me two or
three different times and asked me about it.
THE
COURT: Is your examination of this witness going to take some
additional time, Mr. Panosh?
MR.
PANOSH: I can finish in about five minutes.
THE
COURT: All right.
Q
In his attempts to get you to give him the insurance policy, did he
do anything else?
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A
What do you mean?
Q
Did there come a time when he asked to take you somewhere?
A Yes. My daughter and him planned a trip for us, for my birthday
that year, and we was to leave on a weekend and go spend three or
four days for my birthday. And my son and his wife was to go, too.
And then after Pat died, he continued wanting me to go with him, and
--
Q Who wanted you to go with him?
A Ted wanted me to go with him on that trip. And I said, "No, I
can't." And so, I didn't go.
Q Do you know where that trip was to?
A It was somewhere up in the mountains, but I don't know where.
Q
Did there come a time when it came to your attention that
immediately after the death of Patricia, Ted bought motorcycle?
A Yes, sir.
Q What do you know about that?
A All I know, I knew he bought it and I had heard. And he also
told me that he took part of the church money to buy it, that he'd
always wanted one.
Q Prior to her death, did Patricia ever talk to you about whether
or not they were going to buy a motorcycle?
A
No, sir.
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MR.
PANOSH: No further questions. Thank you.
THE
COURT: All right. You may step down, Ms. Blakley. We're going to
take our lunch break at this point. (The witness left the witness
stand.)
THE
COURT: Members of the jury, we're going to take our lunch recess at
this point. You need to be back at 2:00 o'clock. Please report to
the jury room prior to 2:00 o'clock.
Please remember the instructions on your jury responsibility sheet.
Do not discuss this case among yourselves. Do not read or watch any
news or media accounts. Do not talk with the attorneys, parties or
witnesses or spectators about it or allow them to talk to you or
talk in your presence about this case.
Does
each of you understand?
(Jurors nodded their head up and down.)
THE
COURT: Have a nice lunch. I'll see you at 2:00.
Everyone remain seated, while the jury leaves first.
(The
jury left the courtroom at 12:29 p.m.)
MR.
LLOYD: Judge, just briefly. I wondered if the Court would indulge
us. It's very awkward having to make continuous objections to
comments that Patricia made and Ted made. If the Court would just
allow us -- I said
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something earlier about a line objection to all these prior
statements. I understand what the Court's ruling is. I accept that,
Your Honor.
THE COURT: All right, sir.
MR.
LLOYD:
It just puts us in an awkward position in front of the jury, and it
slows the whole process up.
THE COURT: All right. The Court will allow the record to reflect a
line objection to those questions that deal with the conspiracy
issue or statements made by a co-conspirator.
MR.
LLOYD:
And the frequent statements, as well, Your Honor. We had filed a
motion.
THE COURT: The Court's ruled on those earlier and may have to rule
on some additional ones, but I think the Court has already ruled on
that. You may maintain that line objection.
MR.
LLOYD:
Thank you very much.
THE COURT: Any other matters before the recess?
MR. LLOYD: No,
sir.
THE COURT:
2:00 o'clock,
sheriff.
(A recess was taken at
12:30 p.m.)
(Court reconvened at
2:01 p.m.
The defendant was present. The jury was not present.)
THE
COURT: If you'll return to the witness stand, please.
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(The witness, Sheila Blakley, returned to the witness stand.)
(The jury entered the courtroom at
2:01 p.m.)
THE COURT: I'm very pleased to have the jury panel back. I hope
everyone had a nice lunch and feeling okay. Anyone experiencing any
discomfort this afternoon or any problems, let me know.
All right. You may begin your cross-examination.
MR. LLOYD: Thank you, Your Honor.
CROSS-EXAMINATION by MR. LLOYD:
Q Ms. Blakley,
the second time that your daughter talked to you about the
insurance, that would have been around her birthday; is that right?
A Yes, sir.
Q And that
was September 14th?
A Her
birthday is the 14th, yes.
Q And it
was at that time that she told you that she and Ted had talked, and
they had basically straightened out the matter of the insurance; is
that right?
A She said
that they had talked about it and they were going to talk more about
it and maybe get some counseling about it. And that's the last time
I talked to her about it.
Q Okay. But I
thought you had indicated that on direct examination that at that
time, what your daughter told you
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was that they
had pretty much worked out the problem.
A I don't
remember.
Q And you
indicated that you had gone to the yard sale on that Saturday?
A Yes, sir.
Q All
right. And that Patricia had some items that were for sale in the
yard sale?
A She -- as
I recall, she had some of her stuff and also some stuff that
belonged to Cinnamon Ridge.
Q And did
she indicate to you, Ms. Blakley, that she felt like the yard sale
was pretty successful?
A I never
talked to her about it.
MR. LLOYD:
That's all I have, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Step down, ma'am.
(The witness left the witness stand.)
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