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Rodney Woodberry, Taped Phone Call to Ted Kimble


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Rodney Woodberry

tape call to Ted

nothing bad

 

It is May 31, 1996, the time now is 3:00 p.m., the following will be an undercover telephone call to Ted Kimble at Lyles Building Supplies on Lee Street, Greensboro, N.C. by a cooperating witness. The conversation will be regarding, the October 9, 1995 death of Ted Kimble's wife, Patricia.


(Dialing)
Unknown: Lyles Building Materials.
 

Witness: Yes, could I speak to Ted Kimble? Unknown: Excuse me?
 

Witness: Could I speak to Ted Kimble?
 

Unknown: Uh, he's gone right now. He'll be back in about 45 minutes.
 

Witness: Uh, do you know if he's coming back to the today?
 

Unknown: Uh, yes, he should be back in about 45 minutes.
 

Witness: Oh, okay then. Thank you.
 

Unknown: He got, he was supposed to be back, uh, already, but he got tied up and he called and said it'd be another hour. That was about 15 minutes ago.
 

Witness: Okay. Well, I'll just try later on.
 

Unknown: Alright, thank you.
 

Witness: Thank you. Bye-bye. (Hang up)
 

(Dialing)
 

Kimble: Lyles Building Materials.
 

Witness: Yes, is Ted in?
 

Kimble: Yeah, speaking.
 

Witness: Uh, yes, hello. How's it going man?


 

Kimble: Hey, Rodney.
 

Witness: (inaudible) Hey, look man, what is going on?
 

Kimble: What's that?
 

Witness: Uh, with this situation, man these people are harassing the hell outta me. Their thinking that I had something to do with this here.
 

Kimble: Oh, really.
 

Witness: That you had me to do this and all this...
 

Kimble: No, no.
 

Witness: ...and you know good and well yourself, Ted, that I was nowhere around that day.
 

Kimble: Rodney, Rodney, I talked to my lawyer this morning. He said they're working night and day on it trying to find somebody to blame. You here me?
 

Witness: Yeah, but I mean, you know.
 

Kimble: They can't, look, you got, didn't you say you had witnesses?
 

Witness: Yeah, I, I got witnesses (inaudible)...
 

Kimble: Let me tell you what...
 

Witness: ...but I'm saying that's not stopping them from harassing me. Yesterday they came to my door, they got (inaudible) and I mean.
 

Kimble: Rod, Rodney (inaudible) I know you didn't have anything to do with it, but...
 

Witness: Yeah, but I'm saying I...
 

Kimble: ...you're the easiest target for them to blame.
 

Witness: Well, I can't see that. Like I said, man, I have not been nowhere around Greensboro and you know that as far as this situation, like back here when (inaudible) and you telling me...I mean, I'm just all tore up about this stuff about well at least she's out her misery. Here I am in my misery because of stuff that I haven't done.


 

Kimble: I know, I, I know, Rodney.


Witness: And then, and like I said, they got, like...
 

Kimble: Let me tell you something. They bug the crap outta me. Let me tell you something, tell 'em you don't wanna talk to 'em and...
 

Witness: I'm gonna help to get them off my back or something cause I don't want them to keep bothering me period.
 

Kimble: Well, you wanna talk to, I tell you what, I'm gonna give you a phone number and you call my lawyer, okay?
 

Witness: Well, what, what would your lawyer do for me? That's what I'm saying.
 

Kimble: He'll just tell 'em to leave you alone. You have legal rights, okay. If you don't wanna talk to 'em tell 'em you don't have anything to say to them and for them to (inaudible) harass you is against your rights.
 

Witness: Yeah, I mean but...
 

Kimble: Where can I reach you?
 

Witness: Well, I'm at my sisters house now, but I'm not gonna be here nuttin' but a few minutes, and then they ask me about the money you let me borrow and stuff like that and...
 

Kimble: No, see, they're, they're fishing, Rodney. You know, they got nothing, okay.
 

Witness: Well, I, I mean, they don't, they're not convincing me of that. I mean, they're trying to point this thing at me.
 

Kimble: Rodney, look , they tried to stick it, point at me for months. Let me tell you something, her butthole parents, see her dad (inaudible) he's the one behind that.
 

Witness: Yeah, but, urn, he never bothered me or nothing, you just said that he didn't like me.
 

Kimble: Well, Rodney, he's prejudice.


 

Witness: Well, I don't, I don't have nothing to do with, all I'm saying, how am I gonna get these people off my...they asking me about all kinds of stuff and I haven't told them nothing about the stuff that me and you had talked about or the time that you had said things to me, you know, none of that.
 

Kimble: What are you talking about?
 

Witness: I'm just talking about, you know, just like when I had talked to you that day and I was telling you, uh, how sorry I was or whatever and you telling me well, at least, uh, she's outta her misery now. Now you're putting me in my misery.
 

Kimble: I don't know what you're talking about, Rodney, about her being in her misery. What are you talking about?
 

Witness: Some of the times that me and you had talked, the last time I had
talked to you and then you making me think that, uh.
 

Kimble: I don't know what you, look, I miss my wife greatly. I don't you didn't have anything to do with it. Rodney, you said that you were in Burlington and have witnesses and they're just trying to squeeze you for something that you didn't do just like they tried to squeeze me for something I didn't do.
 

Witness: Yeah, well I'm talking, okay, just like the time whenever you was -- telling me, well, uh, Rodney, wouldn't you like to have a lot of money? I mean, stuff like that.
 

Kimble: I don't know what you're talking about, Rodney.
 

Witness: Well...
 

Kimble: Let me tell you something. Now, I don't talk to nobody about the death of my wife but my attorney. I miss my wife, but there's nothing I can do about it. I can't bring her back. I don't know who killed my wife and that's all I have to say about it.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, they're asking all this stuff about, and (inaudible). Have you ever heard Ted say before that he'd like to have a hit man and stuff like that.
 

Kimble: I never ever...


 

Witness: Like I said, I haven't told them none of this stuff, but I mean far as that you used to say stuff like, uh, I hate I'm married or I wish I hadn't got married. I haven't repeated that to nobody, but I'm caught...
 

Kimble: Rodney, I've never said those things.
 

Witness: You've never said that before?
 

Kimble: I've never said those things. I don't know what to think of that stuff.
 

Witness: You trying to frame me for some stuff.
 

Kimble: Rodney, I'm not framing you for nothing. I told them you're innocent.
 

Witness: Well, like I said...
 

Kimble: I mean, I believe that.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, these people gonna have to get off my back man.
 

Kimble: Rodney, look Rodney, I don't know what you're talking about.
 

Witness: Well...
 

Kimble: I, I never said anything negative about my wife. I love her and miss her very much.
 

Witness: Well, Ted, but this was before, man, I mean, you done talked to me...
 

Kimble: Rodney.
 

Witness: You done talked to me about this before and now all a sudden you changed it around like you trying make me seem guilty.
 

Kimble: Rodney, look, let me tell you something. I, I don't believe a word, I don't know who's put you up to calling my phone. They listen on my phone, they follow me.
 

Witness: Well, I'll tell you what, you can call me back if you believe that I'm somewhere else because I don't have too long over here. I got to get back to Burlington.


 

Kimble: Well, let me tell you something. They listen on my phone, they follow me and everything else.
 

Witness: Well, I didn't know nothing about that. Like I said, they just been following me for the last few days.
 

Kimble: Well, let me tell you something, I don't, you know, I don't know what you're talking about. I never talked negative about my wife and that's all I have to say, you know, I'm sure somebody's put you up to talking.
 

Witness: Well, no, because, like I said, you can call me here. I'm at my sisters house now and I'm not gonna be able to be over here long cause Beverly's on her way to pick me up.
 

Kimble: Yeah, well, I mean, I, I don't know what to say, Rodney. I don't, I don't know what you're talking about.
 

Witness: Well, I'm, I'm just saying that if they keep on...
 

Kimble: Let me tell ya, if they keep on what?
 

Witness: I'm saying if they just keep on harassing me or bothering Beverly I'm gonna have to go talk to, I guess whoever's involved in this or the SBI or something cause they even got the SBI asking me questions.
 

Kimble: I know, Rodney, let me tell you something, they don't even approach me anymore because it's against the law. If you tell them you have legal representation they cannot speak to you.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, you might have legal representation, but I don't and I can't, and I just can't let these people try to put this on me and I don't nothing about it.
 

Kimble: That's my point. I, I mean, you were in Burlington, Rodney. It's because of you're (inaudible)
 

Witness: Well, talked to me something about my past, but that don't have nothing to do with this.
 

Kimble: That's what my point is. They're going on your past and, and because you're a young black male and you're a easy target.

 

Witness: Well, like I ...


 

Kimble: They'll put you on the stand and try to point the finger at you. Let me tell you something, I never gave you any money. The only time I loaned you money was that eighty bucks when those people come up here in front of witnesses and you said you were (inaudible) and needed child support money cause they were gonna come arrest you.
 

Witness: Well, ya'll always let me borrow money. You know that, but you got these people thinking that you gave me money.
 

Kimble: Rodney, let me tell you something, did you hear what I said? Is your head screwed on right?
 

Witness: Man, I am all tore up all over these people been bothering the hell outta me for the last couple days.
 

Kimble: That's because they don't have anything.
 

Witness: Well, I don't know, but like I said, the SBI agent, he's sure convincing me cause he's all in my shit.
 

Kimble: Rodney, look, they're paid to lie, cheat and steal. They've went around telling people lies about me and everything else.
 

Witness: Well, why come they said that you won't even talk to the SBI agent?
 

Kimble: I won't talk to none of them. I'm not going to. I tried to help 'em and dam if they ain't trying to twist things around I said and trying to use it against me. Let me tell you something, they carried pocket recorders and record everything you say and will try and turn anything you say around against you.
 

Witness: Well, I don't know nothing about that cause I talked to, uh, SBI agent Mr. Pendergrass and like I said, he talked to me and he's been in my shit for the last couple days...
 

Kimble: Well.
 

Witness: ...and I'm gonna help 'em get, I'm gonna help 'em get this shit off me because I can't understand why you making them think that I got something to do with this.
 

Kimble: Rodney, Rodney, I have never once said your name.


 

Witness: Well, like I said, something is gonna have to be done, man. I don't have too long because...
 

Kimble: I don't know what you want me to do. It's not my fault. I've never said your name.
 

Witness: Well, I just can't understand why come they telling me that won't even talk to them and this and that and then I can't see that (inaudible)
 

Kimble: Well, let me tell you something, you know what the buttholes, a butthole detective (inaudible) did, he went around, he went and, uh, and told people that he was convinced and the family was convinced that I paid you. That's what the detective, a lying detective said.
 

Witness: Well, I don't know nothing about that, but...
 

Kimble: Well, let me tell ya, I don't even like to talk about this. It's very upsetting, uh, I miss my wife. I'm just (inaudible) a life again.
 

Witness: Like I said, everybody looks at black:..
 

Kimble: Rodney, I have not said your name one time, okay.
 

Witness: Well, I'm just trying to figure out, I can't see what, I mean, what the (inaudible) to hide.
 

Kimble: I don't have anything to hide. Look, they have tried to turn my life around, they've tried to lie, cheat and steal anything they could to break me and I am not to blame.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I just couldn't understand why cause you wouldn't talk to the SBI agent.
 

Kimble: They haven't tried to talk to me, Rodney.
 

Witness: Well, I can't understand, but just between me and you, like I said, even before, even before all this, like I said, when you used to make those little remarks and stuff. You talked to me before like, oh Lord, I wish I wasn't married or I wish I had a hit man and stuff like this, but I just can't see...
 

Kimble: I never said that stuff. I would never say something like that.


 

Witness: Well, like I said.
 

Kimble: I loved my wife, I can't, I'm offended that you would believe something like that.
 

Witness: But I'm saying that I'm gonna have to get my name cleared out of this.
 

Kimble: Well, Rodney, I...
 

Witness: Like I said, I don't have no...
 

Kimble: If you ain't got nothing to hide, you ain't got nothing to worry about, but I hope to God that you didn't have something to do with it.
 

Witness: And you know that, that's why come I talked to the SBI agent.
 

Kimble: Well, I believe you. Why don't, they don't want to believe you. Do you not have witnesses

where you were?
 

Witness: Yes, I got witnesses, but that's another point their investigating is, they're gonna come back and talk to me again tomorrow or either Monday.
 

Kimble: Well, my advise to you is not to talk to 'em.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I don't want...
 

Kimble: That's what my lawyer told me. Now, you do what you wanna do.
 

Witness: Well, I don't want them to think I got anything to hide.
 

Kimble: Well, I got news for ya, I don't, I don't know nothing about the death of my wife. I had nothing to do with the death of my wife and I loved my wife very much and I miss her and there's nothing I can do to help them solve this case.
 

Witness: Well, if Mr. Pendergrass comes back to talk to me, if it gets bad enough and he tries to get me to take a lie detector test, I'm gonna have to try to save my own neck, man, because I can't believe that you just wanna put me out here and you know I had nothing to do with this.


 

Kimble: Rodney, what are you talking about? You're, I thing you're being set up, put on the phone to call me and try and make accusations to me and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna (pause) agree to something like that.
 

Witness: Well, like I said...
 

Kimble: Something I haven't done or done or had done or otherwise.
 

Witness: Well, the SBI agent told me that he will be back Monday to talk to me.
 

Kimble: Well, your comment needs to be you have representation and do not wish to speak to him.
 

Witness: Well, if Mr. Pendergrass comes Monday, I'm, I'm gonna have to talk to him or something cause I'm gonna have to get these people off my back.
 

Kimble: Well, Rodney, I, I don't know who put you up to this conversation, but I have not been saying (inaudible)
 

Witness: See, I'm staying at my sisters house now.
 

Kimble: and I've never said such things about my wife, I loved her very much.
 

Witness: Well, I'm just saying because of the stuff that's been going on and then the SBI agent's talking to me.
 

Kimble: Rodney, let me tell you something, you know, haven't you, you told me one time how you got in trouble selling drugs and everything.
 

Witness: Yeah, but I mean, they know all that.
 

Kimble: That's right. You told me how you were set up and everything else. They're just trying to set you up.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I don't nothing about...
 

Kimble: Let me tell you something, they will use, they try and turn things around on me and that's

what they'll do to you. You do what you wanna do, but as long as you've got witnesses and you know where you were I believe you. I don't believe you had anything to do with it, but this irradical behavior makes me wonder.


 

Witness: Well, because you know that stuff gets me nervous, man, what I supposed to do when that SBI agent keeps pounding me, coming to my door.
 

Kimble: Rodney, you're a grown man.
 

Witness: Well, like I said...
 

Kimble: Rodney...
 

Witness: ...he said he would be back Monday.
 

Kimble: I can't do nothing about that.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, if he...
 

Kimble: Alright, Rodney, did you, did you kill my wife?
 

Witness: You know I didn't, but I'm saying if Mr. Pendergrass comes and talks to me or he ask me would I take a lie detector test I'm gonna have to do what I gotta do.
 

Kimble: Well, take one.
 

Witness: Okay.
 

Kimble: I, what do I care?
 

Witness: Okay.
 

Kimble: But, uh, as far as you making representation toward me, I don't know what you're talking about.
 

Witness: I'm not, but I'm saying it sounds like you're trying to throw this on me.
 

Kimble: Rodney.
 

Witness: I'm calling you to find out what's going on.
 

Kimble: Rodney, look, they have tapped your phone, they are, are on phone lines and they are listening to every word you're saying.
 

Witness: Well, I, well, like I said, I'm...


 

Kimble: Rodney.
 

Witness: ...upset and that's why I called you.
 

Kimble: Rodney, they have tapped the phone, they harassed you and pushed you so that you would call me and try and make some conversation with me.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, this was last night when I talked to Mr. Pendergrass.
 

Kimble: Well, it doesn't matter. Let me tell you something, my lawyers said they've been on this case for weeks day and night and they have been harassing you to try and get you to call me and make some kind of accusation of something they could use (inaudible). I am innocent. I loved my wife. I miss wife very much and I resent any, uh, negative accusations about me.
 

Witness: Well, but like I said, Mr. ...
 

Kimble: I have, Rodney? Rodney, have I ever said anything bad to you, about you?
 

Witness: Have you ever said, no, like I said, you treated me good till all of a sudden all this coming up.
 

Kimble: Rodney, I haven't seen you in six months.
 

Witness: That's what I'm saying, now all of a sudden all this coming up.
 

Kimble: What are you talking, what's coming up?
 

Witness: All of them telling me, oh, Rodney, uh, you did it and this and that and I mean it's like...
 

Kimble: They're blaming you to your face and you're talking to them?
 

Witness: Yeah, I mean, it's like you telling these people stuff that, you know, that you know (inaudible)
 

Kimble: Who's telling them stuff?
 

Witness: Well, like I said, Mr. Pendergrass said he will be back Monday to talk to me.


 

Kimble: Rodney, who's telling you stuff, saying stuff like this?
 

Witness: That's what the SBI agent is telling me.
 

Kimble: Says who's saying stuff about you?
 

Witness: Uh, Mr. Pendergrass is telling me that he's, he's heard this and he's heard that.
 

Kimble: Rodney, he heard it from the family. I have never once slammed you.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: I always liked you Rodney, but I, I resent you saying that I've ever said anything negative on

my wife.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, Mr. Pendergrass will be back Monday.
 

Kimble: Well, I, I, I decline, I have never said anything to you about my wife.  I loved my wife. I miss her and that's all I have to say.
 

Witness: Well, okay.
 

Kimble: And I haven't ever mentioned your name and I don't know where you would come up with the

idea that I would blame you.
 

Witness: Because of the...
 

Kimble: You told me you had...
 

Witness: ...because of the SBI agent and they're pretty persistent about this.
 

Kimble: Rodney, of course they are. They want to know who killed my wife just as bad as I do. They are dying because what's happened, the insurance company is about to settle with me and they're trying desperately to get some kind of accusations against me to try and keep from the insurance company from paying me.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: The deadline in up. The insurance company has to give me an answer in the few weeks, couple weeks and they are trying desperately to keep me from collecting.


 

Witness: Well, I...
 

Kimble: Did you hear what I said?
 

Witness: Yeah, but I didn't, I didn't know nothing about that, but I'm just saying...


Kimble: Well, see, that's my point. You don't know. You didn't call and ask me. They are just playing

you for a sucker.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, this thing just had me shook up and I thought my best bet to call you and find out what was going on.
 

Kimble: Well, you, you should have come seen me or ask me something, but to call me and make false accusations over the telephone like that, I, I resent that.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I, I'm, I'm not trying to make no accusations toward you. I'm just trying...
 

Kimble: Well, that's what it sounds like. I mean, you know as well as...
 

Witness: Well, they said...
 

Kimble: ... you've known me for, you've known me...
 

Witness: ...well, the man gonna stand there yesterday and tell me that this thing'll never go away.
 

Kimble: That's right, it's never gonna go away and they've told me that. They harassed the crap outta me. I got a lawyer and they went away.
 

Witness: Well, well, like I said, I'm gonna be back in town Monday and I, I'm making my business to get past there before I talk to this man, before I talk to him I'm gonna talk to you cause I need to find out what's going on, if you're trying to screw me for this.
 

Kimble: Why would I blame you for something you didn't do?
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I, before I, I'm not even going to work Monday morning. I'm gonna make my business to come to Greensboro.


 

Kimble: If you want to, but I don't, I don't know what to tell ya. All I can say is talk to, you can talk to my attorney and tell him they're harassing you trying to blame you and, and (inaudible) and that they're harassing the crap out of you.
 

Witness: Well, if I have to do that then I'll do that then.
 

Kimble: Do what?
 

Witness: If I have to do that I will do that.
 

Kimble: Let me tell you something, my lawyers represent me and if they're trying to falsely accuse you, he doesn't, you're not to talk to them. You already gave a statement, a signed form statement to my, uh, detective. Did you not?
 

Witness: Yes.
 

Kimble: Then, see, they have no reason to keep, what they're trying to do is find holes in your alibi, in your statement to try, to try and prosecute you.
 

Witness: Yeah, and then, and then yesterday Mr. Pendergrass bringing up stuff about Ronnie. He wanted to know about Ronnie, wanted to know about you and Ronnie, how close are you and Ronnie and this and that and like I told him, I know Ronnie far as working with him down there and stuff.
 

Kimble: (inaudible)
 

Witness: Well, like I told him, I know Ronnie as far as working with him. I know sometimes you and Ronnie might have a little disagreement or something like that, but far as I know ya'll was brothers.
 

Kimble: Well, you know, like I said, uh, Ronnie wasn't even nowhere near there. He was up here, there's people here that seen him, he was with his family and that, I ain't worried about that. My point being, Rodney, they're just trying to squeeze you and trying to get something, I mean, that, that's just like me, you know, I won't speak to 'em.
 

Witness: Well...
 

Kimble: I'm not going to.


 

Witness: Well, he didn't say nothing to me about that. I thought maybe you had talked to him and then I thought they would work with you.
 

Kimble: Rodney, I haven't talked to 'em because they lied to me so much. They went around slamming me to all my friends, slandered me and I'm sure they're listening and all I have to say is that I'm innocent.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: I loved my wife and I miss her.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: I did not harm...
 

Witness: Like I said, I do plan on being over here Monday before Mr. Pendergrass talks to me.
 

Kimble: Well, you know, like I said, uh, you want me to give you my attorney's phone number?
 

Witness: I mean, what, you could, but what good is that gonna do me? I mean, that's your attorney.
 

Kimble: That's my point. If they're trying, are they not trying to falsely accuse you and saying that?
 

Witness: I don't know what they're doing, like I said, Mr. Pendergrass is persistent about this case and I don't want to be involved, but I will get your lawyers number, but like I said, I'm gonna be over here Monday morning.
 

Kimble: Well, all I can tell you is call my attorney and talk to him. There ain't nothing I can do for ya. I have not mentioned your name and I, I would think that you know I wouldn't lie to ya.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: I mean, are you gonna believe me or you gonna believe them?


 

Witness: Well, like I said, I'm just trying to believe whoever pointing, if anybody's pointing this at me or making it seem like that I got anything to do with uh-huh, I'm gonna set there Monday and I'm gonna talk to this man cause I didn't have nothing to do with that and you know that, but like I said, I'm gonna talk to him Monday morning.
 

Kimble: Uh, well, I know what you told me. You told me you were in Burlington and you had people that knew where you were. I didn't talk to you until a couple days later.
 

Witness: Well, like...
 

Kimble: And you seen it on T.V. is what you told me.
 

Witness: Yeah, because I asked did you need any help or did you want me to come down and handle things and you said that Gary and Ronnie was doing that, but they done got beyond that now. They're digging deep, but like I said, L.
 

Kimble: Digging for what?
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I do plan on being here Monday.
 

Kimble: Well, I mean, I, whatever. I mean, what do want me to do?
 

Witness: Uh, nothing. Like I said, I'm gonna come and see you.
 

Kimble: About what?
 

Witness: To find out why would you, I mean if you can't trust me on the phone I need to talk to you face to face.
 

Kimble: Well, I don't know about that, but you can see me if you want. You can talk to my attorney. He can help you more than I can.
 

Witness: Well, I will be there Monday.
 

Kimble: Whatever.
 

Witness: Okay.
 

Kimble: I mean, I don't know what you want me to do.


 

Witness: Well, like I said, I meet you over here Monday. I just don't know what to tell this man and then he getting Beverly upset and Beverly come in yesterday running down to the plant crying and I couldn't figure out why that, she said, some man, I told her don't know no Mr. Pendergrass, and then I don't know what to tell this man when I talk to him about it.
 

Kimble: Well, why don't you pick up the phone and call my attorney and talk to him about it?
 

Witness: Well, and then what do I tell this man (inaudible)
 

Kimble: Now, what I don't understand is why you're calling and saying I said negative things about you (inaudible)
 

Witness: Because I'm saying when that man came and talked to me yesterday, Ted, they were, they were aiming straight towards stuff that saying like you making up on me or you trying to implicate me and whatever.
 

Kimble: Rodney, Rodney (pause) I never said your name to nobody.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: Did, did you hear what I said?
 

Witness: Well, I hear you.
 

Kimble: I, I'll say it in front of them and I'll say it in front of anybody, but unless they've got a written out statement that's signed by me and me standing there saying I signed it they're lying.
 

Witness: Well, I hear you.
 

Kimble: They have lied to everybody I know.
 

Witness: Well, like I said, I hear you.
 

Kimble: All they've done is they've tried to get you to call me and try and drum up some, get something out of you over the telephone. Your phone line is tapped or mine is tapped and their

listening in.
 

Witness: Well, I don't...
 

Kimble: My phone's been tapped.


 

Witness: Well, like I said, I'm at my sisters house. I don't, I don't know nothing about that. I can't see any reason why would they tap my sisters phone.
 

Kimble: No, my phone is tapped.
 

Witness: Well, I don't know nothing about that now.
 

Kimble: But, urn, I, I hope, I don't, like I said, I don't care. I am innocent.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: I loved my wife and I miss her and I've got a sworn statement to you that I never said anything negative about my wife.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: And now you're saying that...
 

Witness: (inaudible)
 

Kimble: ...comments like that.
 

Witness: I haven't told anything. I'm talking between me and you.
 

Kimble: Well, you just announced it.
 

Witness: The little statements and stuff that you have made and stuff like that, I'm convinced, there's stuff that I'm telling you, but I'm saying if this man come to me Monday with this, I'm gonna have to have something to tell him because I'm not gonna let this man just back me up in a corner. No, I'm not gonna do that. Now, like I said, I'm gonna be here Monday morning and my business is to be at Lyles before I talk to this man cause I can't understand, you know, why are you even sitting here now and you telling me, oh, I never said nothing about...
 

Kimble: Cause I haven't and I, I won't.
 

Witness: Well.
 

Kimble: I haven't and I, I haven't never said anything negative about her. I loved my wife very much.
 

Witness: Well, do you plan on being at the place Monday?


 

Kimble: Do what?
 

Witness: Do you plan on being at work Monday?
 

Kimble: Yes.
 

Witness: Well, I will be there Monday morning.
 

Kimble: Whatever, I mean, I don't know what you want me to do.
 

Witness: Well, I'll be there Monday morning before I see Mr. Pendergrass.
 

Kimble: Okay.
 

Witness: Okay.
 

Kimble: I'll see ya Monday. End of conversation.


The time now is 4:30 p.m. Today's date is May 31, 1996. The preceding was a conversation between a C.S.I. and Ted Kimble regarding the October 9, 1995 death of Patricia Kimble.


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